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Thread #109167   Message #2286726
Posted By: Slag
12-Mar-08 - 04:33 PM
Thread Name: BS: I'd like to believe that there is a God
Subject: RE: BS: I'd like to believe that there is a God
Amos, I find that "religionists" often find much greater AGREEMENT with others about their experiences and beliefs than the other way around. Even within the great religions the denominational differences are usually about small matters and personal quibbles, form rather than substance. Your idea of analytical attack can and does apply verbatim in the scientific community with equal force and result. Professional jealously, "publish or perish", being first, Nobel sainthood, etc. It all goes to demonstrate that we are humans and imperfect creatures (or "beings", if you prefer). We see through a glass as darkly (or we have incomplete knowledge, if you prefer).

Bill D writes:

    "Life is a toil and love is a trouble.
      Beauty will fade, and riches will flee.
      Pleasures, they dwindle and prices, they double,
      And nothing is as I would wish it to be"

As Job put it:
      "Yet man is born unto trouble,
       as the sparks fly upward." Job 5:7

The commonality of human experience is one of the things that has made the Bible so enduring as well as endearing. It doesn't portray mankind as how it would LIKE things to be but rather how they ARE. King David was an adulterer and a murderer. Hosea's wife was a whore. Judah used prostitutes. On and on with no punches pulled. Good and bad and often in the same person. Noah getting plastered, conniving Jacob. It's all there in black and white.

Amos, when you solve the problem of the broken symmetries and elucidate TOE, when you have created life from inanimate substance then I will have reason to consider things your way. But I'm not holding my breath.