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Thread #93009   Message #1785806
Posted By: Amos
17-Jul-06 - 04:51 PM
Thread Name: BS: Bush's *Big Stick* Foriegn Policy...
Subject: RE: BS: Bush's *Big Stick* Foriegn Policy...
US has not inflicted a 9/11 on anyone

Troll, with all due respect, the shock and awe of the first six months of the Iraq campaign was as destructive as 9-11, relative to the environment it took place in.

It is reasonable to estimate the total deaths precipitated during the Iraq campaign since Bush's forces crossed into Iraq from Kuwait in the high tens of thousands. That does not take into account the lives ruined by injury, by the trauma of loss and by the trauma of destroying others.

It is not easy to try and estimate the degree to which the American invasion of Iraq actually precipitated the jihad in its present international scale, elevating it to a focused wide-spread effort from a small handful of extremist attacks sporadically launched. I think it is perfectly possible we were better off with the sporadic, and un-unified version. We have provided a lot of potential enemies whose efforts would otherwise have dissipated or fallen short of any actualization, with a crystallizing and unifying and energizing target. I don't think this was smart strategy.

Invading Iraq without understnading the intensely tribal and deeply rooted venom circulating among the sub-populations was unwise. Not understanding the gathering effect of placing the confrontation in one big sandbox was unwise. Not trying to address the core causes of hostility was unwise. And it is not correct, in my opinion, to simply categorize the enemy as "radical Islamisc fundamentalists" with the implication that by being in that category they are automatically dedicated to the current hostility. The fact is, I believe, that the number of Muslims now engaged in hostililty is much greater, and more focused, as a consequence of our bad diplomacy, than it ever would have been under a more intelligent, better-educated and more understanding leadership.