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Thread #90369   Message #1713894
Posted By: Little Hawk
09-Apr-06 - 02:24 PM
Thread Name: BS: Book of Judas
Subject: RE: BS: Book of Judas
I am totally 100% unaware of any documented historical evidence that would prove Jesus existed. I have never been aware of such evidence. Therefore, I could not have claimed any such thing as you say.

What I did assert numerous times was that the huge religious and cultural tradition built around the man's life makes it seem probable to me that he really existed. Very probable.

I am amused and astonished by your low assessment of spiritual teachers as "worthless bums". LOL!

You don't know shit about spiritual teachers. I gather you have no belief in anything spiritual whatsoever. Fine. I don't care. It doesn't matter.

I am not a Christian at all. Nor am I a fundamentalist. I belong to no religion. I respect all spiritual traditions and find some truth in all of them. I do not regard Jesus as the one and only "Son of God". I do not regard him as the one and only "personal saviour" of mankind. I do regard him as having been a genuine spiritual teacher of very high accomplishment, and worth learning a few things from.

Your life, I think, is simply based on philosophical assumptions so radically different from mine that we cannot discuss this subject without major misunderstandings arising.

I don't know that Jesus really existed. I just think it's very probable that he did. I think your degree of faith that he didn't is very similar to a fundamentalist's faith that he is the "only Son of God", and it's driven by the very same kind of righteous zeal. You think the same about me. Well...we could both be right about that.

Have a little humility. I know I'm fallible and I'm sure you are too. You're just another little human being who has strong opinions, but doesn't know. I know that I don't know. Do you?