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Thread #88448   Message #1658657
Posted By: Little Hawk
31-Jan-06 - 10:43 PM
Thread Name: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
"With the possible exception of Carthage during the Punic Wars, almost 2500 years ago, no country in the world, no country in recorded history, has ever been threatened with extinction."

Actually, I think a number of countries have been threatened with extinction in recorded history...and have had it done to them too.

Not just Carthage by any means. Hitler basically wiped Poland off the map of Europe between 1939 and 1945, for instance. Had he won, Poland would be just a memory. There have been many small countries that were obliterated in wars. Some by the Romans, some by other conquering empires. The Spanish obliterated 2 advanced cultures in Central and South America, the Incas and the Aztecs. The Europeans wiped out several nations of Native Americans completely between 1500 and 1900. There are numerous nations of antiquity in both Europe and Asia which ceased utterly to exist after they were overrun and plundered by some larger entity.

So the position of Israel and the Jews is not as unique in this respect as some might think. But it sounds good to say it is, if you want to get people really worked up about it.

Read Hitler's rhetoric about the sufferings of Germany after WWI. A similar sense of outrage, of having been unfairly singled out for a uniquely horrible persecution as a nation, drove the Nazis into seeking military solutions in Europe where they were neither needed nor prudent. That caused them to become the pariah of Europe in the end.

The USA lifts far more than a finger to assist Israel in times of dire trouble. They airlifted so much equipment to them during the October War in '73 that it outdid the famed Berlin Airlift, and that is what allowed Israel to lauch a counteroffensive and reverse the fortunes of the Egyptian Army. Without the airlift, Israel would have lost that war in the Sinai...and the only question is, how far east would Sadat have sent his tanks? Israel is not nearly as alone in tough times as the article suggests.

Isn't it rather odd, in retrospect, that Hitler associated the Left WITH the Jews (while the author of the above article associates the Left with Anti-semitism)? He considered Communist Russia to be run BY the Jews! This would almost be funny if it weren't just totally sad...and if it had not had such horrific consequences in Germany and elsewhere.

It seems that the Left is the chosen boogeyman of both Nazis AND their most notable historical victims! The Left gets blamed for a lot.

People can believe anything. Just depends who they listen to.