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Posted By: MickyMan
11-Jan-04 - 08:56 PM
Thread Name: Travel guitars
Subject: RE: Go Guitar info from another message board
I was just surfing over at Harmony Central (sorry to be two-timing on all you filthy folky felines...) and I saw a great thread about go guitars.
(love that copy edit command = to see some neat go-guitar pictures go to Jeremy's geocities website listed below)
Excuse the pun....Here GOOOOOOO's





my go-guitar (go-m)
i got my go-guitar (model go-m) this week. here is the page i made for it. review, pictures, mp3's, etc. --

http://www.geocities.com/netbiz3/goguitar.htm


01-10-2004 03:50 AM         



orsino
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Nice page Jeremy! Glad you like yours. I'm still loving mine. Play it every day at work. I also took it from FL to CA and it travels VERY well.


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01-10-2004 12:37 PM         

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thanks. wow, yours has quite a few miles on it! glad you're still enjoying it. and thanks again for the video review and clips you posted, those played a role in my decision.


01-10-2004 02:30 PM         



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Congratulations Jeremy! And nice review too. I think it's great the way that guitarists are sharing reviews of their instruments on the Internet.

Wishing you a happy relationship!

Cams


01-10-2004 03:53 PM         



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thanks cams. i agree with you. the internet can be a great resource. it certainly has been and still is for me.

01-10-2004 06:17 PM         



bsman
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My Go-M turned 3 about Thanksgiving time, and has logged approximately 30,000 air-miles, been to work and back every week and is still going strong. 'Course, It's got its share of dings and scratches, but it keeps on ticking. One nice thing; the sound has improved markedly over the time I've had it. It is now a lot less tinny-sounding than it was when it was new. Also, the top has darkened quite a bit.

I like it so much, I'm thinking about getting Sam to install the fishman pickup in it. I have also been contemplating getting one of his parlor guitars (debating between that and a Tacoma DR12).

Anyway - enjoy your Go - it's a rather small fraternity, but a happy one!

01-10-2004 10:57 PM         


seven7
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bsman,

wow, after reading your post i'm even more pleased with my purchase. that's awesome.

i'd be curious to know how sam installs an undersaddle pickup in one of these guitars that's already built. i'm used to reaching through the soundhole and doing the installation by hand but the hole on these guitars is too small for that.
i'm counting on using an external pickup with mine...
i have a schatten dualie that i really like...(http://www.schattendesign.com)

01-10-2004 11:56 PM         



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i'd be curious to know how sam installs an undersaddle pickup in one of these guitars that's already built. i'm used to reaching through the soundhole and doing the installation by hand but the hole on these guitars is too small for that.([
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That little, tiny soundhole is why I decided not to even try installing a pickup myself! I'm interested to get your opinion on how the duallie works, because if it does the job (at less than half the cost of the fishman) it might be a good alternative.


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01-11-2004 10:00 AM         



orsino
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Hey seven,
Do you have any recordings of one of your guitars using the Dualie. I'd like to hear what it sounds like.


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01-11-2004 12:43 PM         



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ya guys, i have recordings of the dualie. i actually just recorded one last night with the dualie and the go-guitar. sorry, i don't have any on full size guitars but these are what i have right now.

you'll probably have to type these in rather than clicking on them to get them to work..also, i don't know if my eq preferences are the same as yours so whether you like my eq'd samples or not is determined by that i'd guess..also, where you stick the pickup is a major factor in the sound.

this first sample is the dualie on my go-guitar into danelectro eq into computer. the pickup is placed running parallel to the bridge not really favoring bass or treble side. eq is set flat other than dropping the mids down

http://www.geocities.com/netbiz3/goanddualieeq1.mp3


these next two are the dualie on my baby taylor (same setup as above).
eq set flat:

http://www.geocities.com/netbiz3/dualie.mp3

bass dropped some, treble flat, mids dropped:

http://www.geocities.com/netbiz3/dualieeqd.mp3

as far as how the pickup works goes:
it's basically two sensors mounted into a small wooden block that detect the vibration of where you stick it. it's very simple looking but also very effective. they are handmade. the output is pretty good on these things without any boost, but i get my best results with it using my danelectro eq pedal and eq'ing to preference as well as boosting the gain up some too with that pedal.
how the pickup sounds has A LOT to do with where you stick it.
i have found best positions for my ears to be right behind the bridge running parallel to it. from there you can move it slightly towards the bass or treble side to get your desired sound. as with any other acoustic pickup eq'ing it to shape it to personal preference is a good idea.
this pickup sounds far more natural than the fishman matrix, that's for sure. of course the matrix would win out in being the most feedback resistant. i think that's the only thing the matrix has over the dualie.
oh, i have failed to mention how it mounts. the pickup includes two types of putty. one marked for 'outside use' and one marked for 'inside use'...i use the outside putty as i like to mount the pickup outside so i can take it on and off. it doesn't seem to harm the finish at all. in fact, after pulling it off i can't even tell it's been on there. you will get the best results by using as thin a layer of putty as you can get away with.

i bought mine directly from schatten design. les schatten will answer anything for you that i can't. i talked with him quite a bit before and after my purchase. also when you buy direct from him there's a money back guarantee. if you don't like it, you return it for a refund..
check out the guarantee and you will see he stands behind his product:

http://www.schattendesign.com/moneyback.htm


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01-11-2004 01:51 PM         



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Question for the Go-Guys:
Any reason you guys picked the regular as opposed to the Grande? I'm curious whether the extra air volume from the deeper body makes a difference.

I'm also pissed that the Go-Bro is no longer listed. I was really curious about that one.

They need samples on their site.


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01-11-2004 03:33 PM         



seven7
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Re: Question for the Go-Guys:

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Any reason you guys picked the regular as opposed to the Grande? I'm curious whether the extra air volume from the deeper body makes a difference.

I'm also pissed that the Go-Bro is no longer listed. I was really curious about that one.

They need samples on their site.
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for me, even initially i was looking at this as more than a travel instrument and wanted a different acoustic voice. i figured the standard go would be a more unique voice and further away from a standard sized guitar in sound than the grande. so that was cool with me. and it doesn't hurt it's not as expensive either. although i did get some upgrades on my go-m. but they were worth it. i did consider the grande, and i won't rule out getting one of those sometime down the line since it would be yet another voice to add to my arsenal. but ultimately it was the
go-m i wanted.
even if you go with a grande though i don't think portability would be any different. i think it may use the same exact carrying bag.

you can call or email sam and i'm sure he'll talk about the 'go bro' with you. he does actually work building the guitars though so he's not always answering the phone, but you can leave him a message to call you back. he always replies to his e-mail assuming it's working properly. i never felt like he was in a rush or anything when i talked to him either, he took all the time to thoroughly go over everything i had questions on and then some.


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01-11-2004 06:12 PM         



orsino
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Re: Question for the Go-Guys:

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Any reason you guys picked the regular as opposed to the Grande? I'm curious whether the extra air volume from the deeper body makes a difference.

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takeout,
As seven said, my GO-M has become more rounded since I've bought it as well. I'm almost certain that the deeper bodied model will sound fuller, but my reason for buying was to have the smallest guitar I could find for carrying on the plane but still felt and played as close to a full sized guitar as possible. I think the GO-M meets both criteria. I've been thinking about the deeper bodied one for kicking around the house with as well.

seven,
I think the Dualie sounds pretty good for the price. Might have to check it out.


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01-11-2004 06:18 PM         



seven7
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orsino,

be sure to post some clips and give your thoughts if you try out a dualie. i honestly can't say the k&k pure western is any better to my ears as far as a starting point to eq to my preference. at any rate, both of those are quality products, imo.