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Blues=Life BS: Obit: the Democratic Party (106* d) RE: BS: Obit: the Democratic Party 07 Nov 02

You know, I might just feel like y'all ignoring me! LOL I'm the one that brought up Clinton, and now I'm sorry I did. But I'll type this real slow, so you can't possibly make a straw man out of it AGAIN!

The Question was, when did the party die?

My answer was, when the PARTY LEADERSHIP acted like lying to the American public was OK!

It was wrong when Reagan did it. It was wrong when Clinton did it.

You break trust with the American people, and they don't forget it that easily. Dick and Tom LOOKED bad when they said it was OK to act like Clinton. From that moment on, they embodied my party, and I didn't like it. Obviously, neither did the voters.

Little Hawk, I am not a person who "change their moral positions as often as they change their socks," and have given you no reason to think that. I am a lifelong, active, member of the Democratic Party.
I also taught ethics at the university level for a number of years, and have put a lot of thought into my personal code of ethics. I will repeat my original premise, and please argue it, and not your distorted version of it:

"The rest (party leadership) missed the fact that if I can't trust you to tell me the truth, THEN I CAN'T TRUST YOU. This is a lesson I teach my kids, why is it that my party leadership doesn't know this?"

I don't expect much from my politicians, but I do hold them to the same standard as coworkers, employers, customers, and others I deal with on a daily basis. Don't break my trust. It doesn't grow back.

Gov. Tom Vilsack, D-Iowa, for President, 2004

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