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SeanM BS: US ...pledge of allegiance ruled out! (104* d) RE: BS: US ...pledge of allegiance ruled out! 27 Jun 02

To Jon G.:

I don't know about court cases - but I can personally attest to getting abused (physically) by classmates for refusing to say it. This was about twenty years ago, BTW.

For not saying the pledge in fourth grade (and arguing the point with the teacher), I was first made to miss substantial portions of my class day by standing in the hall for an hour for refusing to join in. I was hit, had things thrown at me and various other abuses by classmates. I eventually wound up getting disciplined by the school principle.

I soon found it better to go ahead an pretend that I believed anything I said about 'the flag' (and yes, at that age, I HAD been putting thought into it) rather than continue being ostricized and abused.

Yes, there is pressure to say the pledge. No, in most cases it is NOT societally OK to say "I'd rather not". I do NOT stand by the Pledge of Allegiance. The only "pledge" of that nature I have ANY allegiance to is the one that I swore when I joined the US Navy - and I'm done with that, thank you.


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