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Steve Shaw BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 (1904* d) RE: BS: New news on the pandemic COVID-19 08 Oct 21


Well I read the piece about Australia and the protest. It shouldn't really need pointing out that Oz, and NZ too, are, in effect very remote "islands" with huge distances across oceans to the next place along. Moreover, both countries have sparse populations spread over large areas compared with other western nations. So they've done very well in keeping case numbers low, but they do start with that two-pronged advantage. Just sayin'.

And let's keep very clear in our minds the stark difference between anti-vaxxers and people who object to mandatory vaccination. I'm in that latter camp (I'm not going over it all again), but I am as pro-vaccine as anyone else. In fact, like a parrot I've said a number of times that the ONLY way to control this pandemic is to get the whole world vaccinated. Check my posts for that, you'll find it in them writ large. Saying that I think it's unethical and anti-democratic to force vaccination on people under pain of losing their jobs does in no way align me with conspiracy-theory anti-vaxxers, and it would be nice to not be lazily slurred in that manner. Indeed, I jumped at the first opportunity I had to get my jabs and I can't wait for my booster. If pubs and night clubs and football stadiums wish to exclude unvaccinated people, I'm right with them on that. That's their right. But governments passing laws that allow companies to sack people for refusing the jabs is crossing a red line for me. I live in the real world, and I know that interviewees for jobs in, say, care homes will be asked about their vaccinations and will be rejected if they reveal themselves to be refusers. That's fine by me, but that is the company doing that, not the law of the land, and 'twas ever thus (I'm pretty certain that I was once turned down for a job in the Civil Service because I was a CND activist - the buggers were even tapping my phone! I'm even fine with that decision, though obviously not the phone-tapping...) but a superb lady who looked after my mum wonderfully in her care home for the last two years of my mum's life is now facing dismissal by statute because she doesn't want the jab. That is just wrong.


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