Steve Shaw, the idea that teaching *little kids* requires making them want to learn is possibly the major problem. Kids can't *help* learning. They are little knowledge sponges. If you give them info, they will learn it. The idea that they have to be *entertained* even robs them of the sense of accomplishment one gets from making efforts. Effortful learning is intrinsically rewarding. School should require industry so kids develop into adults with industry. What we have instead is adults who require entertainment. Sigh.
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