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Iains BS: Ecoloon or Green Hero (92* d) RE: BS: Ecoloon or Green Hero 27 Apr 19


According to the Irish Examiner the first water meter was installed in 2013.
Who to believe? The Irish examiner or a pontificating ex sparky who constantly changes the parameters of the discussion when shown to be in error? Why on earth do you insist denying the obvious? How many times does an obvious fact need pointing out to you before you get it through your skull?

The Irish approach to water charges has been a fiasco since 1978 when Fianna Fáil abolished water charges in the guise of domestic rates, without coming up with an alternative model.

In 1985 Tánaiste Dick Spring introduced a local-service levy, which included a water charge.

1996 Water charges are abolished in December 1996 by then environment minister Brendan Howlin, widely seen as a political move to block anti-tax candidates in a forthcoming election. Since then, the only domestic users who have paid for water are those in group water schemes. For the rest, the water is paid for from general taxes.

December 2009:

In his budget speech, minister for finance Brian Lenihan announces that preparations for water charges are underway and, when introduced, they will be based on consumption above a free allocation.

June 2010:

In a 2010 interview with The Irish Times, then Labour leader Eamon Gilmore rules out water charges on the basis of the cost of installing meters as well as ruling out a property tax.

November 2010:

In the National Recovery Plan, which outlines in detail how the government proposed to make €15 billion of savings by 2014, a decision was taken not to introduce an interim flat rate of residential water tax pending the installation of meters in 1.2 million homes connected to the public water mains supply.

November 2010:

The government publishes the memorandum of understanding on the conditions of the €85 billion EU-IMF bailout which says water charges will be introduced in 2012 or 2013, by which time metering is to have been installed across the State. This is a year earlier than expected. It also says the responsibility for water will be transferred from local authorities to a new water utility.

May 2011:

A spokeswoman for minister for the environment Phil Hogan dismisses claims by the Opposition that the Government has committed to introduce flat-rate water charges.

June 2011:

Mr Hogan confirms a procurement process for the installation of water meters is being entered into with the intention of having the necessary infrastructure in place early in 2012. Metered domestic water charges will then be put in place.

April 2012:

The Government confirms households will be liable for funding arrangements totalling more than €800 million needed to establish a water company, including interest payments on a loan from the National Pension Reserve Fund. Mr Hogan describes it as the most significant decision taken in relation to a State utility since the establishment of the ESB.

The Government also announced the contract to run the company has been awarded to Bord Gáis Éireann, of which Irish Water will become a subsidiary. Irish Water will gradually become responsible for supplying all public water in the State, taking over the role currently performed by the 34 local authorities. Mr Hogan says charges would be introduced in 2014 and Irish Water would have 90-95 per cent of the meters installed by the end of that year.

July 2013:

Irish Water is incorporated as a semi-state company under the Water Services Act 2013.

December 2013:

The Water Service (No.2) Bill 2013 is rushed through all stages in the Dáil over four hours on the 19th amid protest from the Opposition.

January 2014:

Irish Water’s chief executive John Tierney tells the Oireachtas environment committee it has kept the Department of the Environment abreast of its spending costs, and estimates that it would spend €85 million on consultants by 2015.

Mr Hogan’s spokesman says the Minister was unaware of the detailed breakdown of how Irish Water was spending the €180 million it needed to establish itself.

May 2014:

Government reaches agreement to eliminate €50 standing charge, which was seen to erode the benefit of allowances for households with children.

July 2014:

Commission for Energy Regulation reveals details of water charges which indicate that the average cost for a household of two adults and two children will come in at €278. Metered rates are set at €4.88 for 1,000 litres of water for properties requiring both the waste and drinking water services and half that for properties requiring one service.

October 2014:

Controversy erupts as it emerges Irish Water staff will have access to a bonus payment regime - even in cases where their performance is classified as needing improvement. It is later announced that bonus payments for 2013 and 2014 will be suspended.

October 2014:

Commission for Energy Regulation grants one month extension to sign-up period for Irish Water customers with deadline extended until end of November. This follows reports that registration numbers have been underwhelming to date.

October 2014:

Opposition to the charges intensifies as upwards of 50,000 people marched against them in Dublin in one of the largest demonstrations seen in the capital in years. The Green Party calls for a referendum that would ensure water services remain in public ownership.

October 2014:

Tánaiste Joan Burton acknowledges that the timetable for setting up Irish Water had been “too ambitious”. Taoiseach Enda Kenny says the public must have “absolute confidence” in Irish Water if the regime is to work.

November 2014:

Anti-water protestors gather in Jobstown in Dublin where Ms Burton was attending a graduation ceremony. She is trapped in her car by the crowd for more than two hours and a row breaks out between Government figures and Socialist Party TD Paul Murphy as to whether or not it was a peaceful protest.

November 2014:

Minister for Environment Alan Kelly announces a revised water charges package with capped costs and a commitment to legislate to ensure a referendum must take place is water charges are to leave public ownership.

The situation today is unclear. Having installed meters it is likely they will be used and that water will not be paid for out of the general rate, as this penalizes all those with private water supply and waste treatment plants.

No doubt elections will be out of the way before this thorny rose is plucked again. The issue has not gone away.


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