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Stu BS: Las Vegas - 59 dead so far (267* d) RE: BS: Las Vegas - 59 dead so far 04 Oct 17

"Taking away guns gives control to governments"

So much to unravel in this statement. It's an admission that democracy is a sham and force of arms and the violent imposition of an aggressor's will is the only way for society to function. Except society won't function under these conditions, as everyone disagrees to some level about HOW a society should function and if the only way to resolve these conflicts is with force means society has collapsed... there will be no rule of law, just individuals acting according to their own will.

It's one thing defending a democracy with force of arms, another threatening it from within because you don't like the way it's going. A democracy operates on consensus and a society agrees to give a government control for the common good and is changed via a vote. Of course this doesn't always work, but the idea that a civilised society cannot organise itself to look after its own citizens is an insidious one, especially in an established democracy such as the US.

This viewpoint is so utterly bleak and I wonder how many actually share it in the US? A degree of this belligerence is demonstrated by Trump and it's why the US is no longer seen as leader of the free world outside it's borders.

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