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MGM·Lion BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party (2383* d) RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party 08 May 16

An observation for attention of PFR -- Heavy sarcasm is usually counterproductive.

This pertinacious drift has reminded me of a conversation with my father in my teens, soon after the 1948 declaration of the state of Israel. He was an influential longtime political Zionist — back when that term simply applied to a specific political movement with specific aims & had not yet acquired its, comparatively recent, highly pejorative overtone of aggressive nationalism.

"You will have to realise" I said "that the Arabs are your Red Indians" (another term one could use then but now for some idiotic reason tabu & non-pc). "Nonsense," he replied, "they are nothing of the sort."

But I thought, and still think, I was right. One analogy -- settlements established where treaty agreements have previously stated that they wouldn't.


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