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GUEST,Azizi Bogart - Don't Bogart that joint. (27) RE: Bogart - Don't Bogart that joint. 21 Nov 12


I want to support thosp's (17 April 00) and Guest's 20 Nov 12 - 07:51 AM comment about the meaning of "bogart" in the Northeastern region of the USA.

The meaning I knew for bogart in New Jersey in the 1960s was to try to take something that wasn't yours. That meaning came from Humphery Bogart's movie roles as a tough guy. "Bogart" btw was (is) pronounced "boh GARD" and I think that word is often spelled that way.

I read three pages of definitions of bogart which had been sent into urban dictionary.com before I found this meaning of that word as sent in by GK, December 29, 2007:

"The term 'Bogart' as it has been defined here only exemplifies part of the meaning. It has nothing to do specifically with 'hogging' a joint or smoking in general.

It is a VERB describing an act of boldness and fearlessness as was exhibited by Bogart in most of his film roles.

You Bogart your way into your boss' office when you don't care what the secretary says. You 'Bogart' your way into traffic when no one will let you into your lane and you 'Bogart' a joint when you could care less that anyone else is waiting for a hit.

This is the real origin of the term, "Don't Bogart that joint."

If you think you're just going to 'Bogart' me around like this, you are mistaken.
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There are at least 6 other pages for bogart meanings on urban dictionary.com but I stopped reading after finding that one.

I remember other African American teens saying "No bogarding allowed." when some other student tried to "gip" (move up some spaces in a school line.)

And yes, I now know that "gip" comes from insulting stereotypes about so-called "Gypsies". I don't use the word "gip" now, but I may still use "bogard" (bogart)if someone thought that he or she was tough enough to skip spaces in a store line - or a car line for gas as some people are facing now in parts of New York City or Northern New Jersey in the aftermath of hurricane Sandy.


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