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GUEST,Iains Can a pop song become traditional? (679* d) RE: Can a pop song become traditional? 30 Aug 12


I have read all this thread with fascination. There seem to be several streams of thought(at least)There is a highly academic line of reasoning that suggests everything has too be highly dissected and conform to a rigerous test as to origin/antiquity-even to the extent of having no attributable author. Another argues that a song must have evolved. The definition of folk has no universally accepted criteria.
Also the world has moved on. Data can move around the world in an instant- the days of an itinerant minstrel ceased many years passed.
In many ways the purists need to update their act to the modern world, they seem to require that a song evolves and travels over a period of time. The internet provides a new paradigm.
Is Raglan Road a folk song or in the folk idiom or is this purely an argument based around semantics? Does the same apply to O'carolyn's Farewell to Music, or Carrickfergus?
In sessions I attended in Lincolnshire for some years the music played
would encompass anything in the folk 'idiom' I am sure we all collectively regarded it as folk, irregardless of wether it was written by John Connolly, Ralph Mctell or A N Other back in the 1600's
If Joe average regards Fairytale of New York as a traditional folk song then surely it is? By it's chart sales it is also a pop song.
Is music of a certain genre to be enjoyed by listening to it-playing it-or dissecting it? The latter song is a traditional christmas favourite. So to answer the original thread I would say YES.


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