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Iona BS: Remember the Garry Moore Show? (31) RE: BS: Remember the Garry Moore Show? 07 Aug 12

pdq wrote: "Ken Carson seems to have been able to maintain a career in singing, acting and general intertainment. Born in Oklahoma and part Cherokee, he did OK with or without the Sons of the Pioneers...

"Late in 1931, he became a regular on Stuart Hamblen's popular radio show. A year later, he became a member of the Beverly Hillbillies and formed a lasting friendship with Shug Fisher. He was later part of the Ranch Boys trio and made his film debut in 1934, singing 'The Man On The Flying Trapeze' in It Happened One Night. The Ranch Boys moved to join NBC in Chicago in 1936, initially for a one-year contract but stayed until they disbanded in 1941. Carson then gained his own programme on WGN, where he became known to the Sons Of The Pioneers. In April 1943, they asked him to deputize for Lloyd Perryman, who was drafted for military service. He officially joined the group in June 1943 and his fine tenor vocals became an important part of some of their recordings for Decca Records. Perryman returned early in 1946 but Carson continued to record with the group until December 1947, although officially no longer a group member....""

PdQ: Yes, Ken was doing well even before he met the Pioneers! There's a pretty big web page on him here: {CLICKY}

However, I have done a LOT of researching on Ken's genealogy, and I have not found any evidence that he was "Part Cherokee". Lots of people claimed that back then ('specially the cowboy singers), but I don't know where that came from about Ken. His father was born in Indian territory, yes, but wasn't Indian. Ken's birth name was Hubert Paul Flatt (sounds English if nothing else)...the thing that fouls me up is that he has a rather 'exotic' look about him. He's dark, short and handsome. ;) (not really short, even though his nickname was "Shorty"--he stood an extreme average height of 5'10). Future research may discover something...

One error, too, in the 'summary' you posted (that's from, I think): Lloyd Perryman returned in 1947, not 1946, and Ken recorded with the group into 1948. That's all covered in the page I linked to, though. Even got pictures (one of the Garry Moore Show Cast).

Allan C: I doubt that Viki Laurence's book has anything on Ken Carson, because Carol Burnett and Ken never worked together on the Garry Moore Show. Ken was on the first show which ran from 1950 to 1958. Carol Burnett was on the second show a while later.

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