Mudcat Café Message Lyrics & Knowledge Personal Pages Record Shop Auction Links Radio & Media Kids Membership Help
The Mudcat Cafeawe

User Name Thread Name Subject Posted
Ringer BS: Got Science? (515* d) RE: BS: Got Science? 23 Mar 11

"Well let's hear you define the exact point of origin of life..." I can't do that, Steve Shaw; can you?

Nevertheless, I maintain that without the somewhat-less-than-perfect self-replicating mechanisms which we associate with "life" there can be no natural selection nor evolution.

Therefore evolution cannot have been responsible for the transition between non-self-replicating (ie non-living) and self-replicating (ie living). If you have arguments to the contrary, now's the time to state them.

I did not mean to imply, by using the word "development," that I thought evolution had a goal or was directed. If you prefer the word "change" to development then that's fine with me; I shall try and avoid the word "develop" in this discussion from now on (except in the next sentence). I do think, though, that to deny the word "development" to describe the change from undifferentiated monocellular barely-organism to the beauty & complexity of life as we know it now is perverse.

"You're trying to put a very ugly layer of gilding on a very beautiful lily." You are mistaken, inferring slights I did not imply.

Post to this Thread -

Back to the Main Forum Page

By clicking on the User Name, you will requery the forum for that user. You will see everything that he or she has posted with that Mudcat name.

By clicking on the Thread Name, you will be sent to the Forum on that thread as if you selected it from the main Mudcat Forum page.
   * Click on the linked number with * to view the thread split into pages (click "d" for chronologically descending).

By clicking on the Subject, you will also go to the thread as if you selected it from the original Forum page, but also go directly to that particular message.

By clicking on the Date (Posted), you will dig out every message posted that day.

Try it all, you will see.