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GUEST,Chris P Is Geordie a separate language? (120* d) RE: Is Geordie a separate language? 10 Mar 11

Guest Eliza asks where the dividing line between Northern and Southern English is, which as is evident above, is not so easy to answer as there are many threads to the story. However, Nottingham and Derby are considered to have northern accents.
By aye='normal' I meant that it's not dialect, as there is probably no part of England that doesn't have some historical use of it.
Interesting mention above of Scouse in south west Lancashire. It was always assumed by us kids that it was so different from Mancunian because it was closer to Ireland, which when you think about it a bit is absurd, as almost nobody in the northern industrial areas doesn't have some Irish antecedents.
The answer dawned on me some years ago when I was in a Welsh-speaking shop in North Wales. The rhythm, lilt and accent of the spoken Welsh was very like Scouse. It seems to me that the bedrock of the accent in that area of Lancashire must be Welsh/British, likewise much of the West Midlands.
Romany is an Indo-European language of its own, and can be traced right across Europe even today.

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