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S.P. Buck Mulligan Lyr Req: (We May Be Fighting a) Losing Battle (13) RE: Lyric req.: Fighting a losing battle 11 Mar 98

Hi Jon - I agree pretty much with your commentary. The Betty & Dupree theme is more or less legendary, and shows up in lots of places, and is frequently listed as a variant of Frankie and Johnny (though I think it isn't really). The Great Folk Scare was most notable for bringing theretofore scarce music to us WonderBread types. If you want to hear something bizarre, listen to the Weavers' version of Leadbelly's Goodnight Irene, which was actually well up on the pop charts for quite a while in the early 50s, as was their version of Guthrie's "So Long (it's been good to know ya)". Folks like The Weavers, The Kingston Trio, Bob Gibson, Pete "Legend in his own Mind" Seeger (and the rest of his noble clan, may they increase) are deserving of our thanks not because they did their stuff the same way as the "originals" but because they introduced a whole generation of us whitebread types to the existence of the music, starting tin the 40s with the Weavers and Woody Guthrie. They took the stuff that Lomax et al had collected and made us listen to it by sorta "sneaking" it in under the guise of something we'd recognize. Then we branched out and went to the sources. Along the way of course, the "pop" folk sound grew up too (The Highwaymen, The Mitchell Trio, Limeliters, tons and tons of other one-hit, no-hit groups), and mercifully, pretty much died out, though they turned out to be the proving ground for so many of the musicians who took over pop music in the 70s - Steven Stills, Neil Young, John Phillips, John Sebastian, you name it. But you're right of course - once you've heard Robert Johnson do "Come on in my Kitchen" you'll never go back to Delaney & Bonnie's (however much fun it was). But PP&M are special - for me anyway - and their music will never die. Glad you enjoyed "See What Tomorrow Brings" - I recommend a tour through the rest of their stuff when you've time & leisure. Just as you were surprised to find this tune, there might be other epiphanies too. (A much older Mary's version of Eric Bogle's "No Man's Land" on "Flowers and Stones" is a true gem)

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