Mudcat Café Message Lyrics & Knowledge Personal Pages Record Shop Auction Links Radio & Media Kids Membership Help
The Mudcat Cafeawe

User Name Thread Name Subject Posted
Piers BS: Anyone still a socialist/communist? (147* d) RE: BS: Anyone still a socialist/communist? 15 Jun 07

In Cuba, wealth production is based on capital and wage labour. Most of the citizens have only their labour to sell as a commodity while a minority control the means of production. In Cuba, they have all the essential requirements of capitalism. Workers are exploited in Cuba, just as we are in the UK. Cuba is a hierarchical society just like the UK. They have money, banks, secret police, just like 'the West'. It is a capitalist society. Workers go on strike in Cuba, there are prostitutes in Cuba, there are thieves in Cuba.

Socialism/communism, is social/common ownership, as in possession, as in control and thus democratic, not in the capitalist sense of electing leaders but in the sense of everybody participating in running their workplaces, their community and their lives.

Fidel Castro can call himself a communist, he can call himself Marilyn Monroe, but it doesn't make it true. Once you pick up gun, once you set yourself outside the rest of the working class as a vanguard to bring about the revolution on behalf of others, once you call yourself a leader, then you have stepped outside the socialist/communist tradition.

Post to this Thread -

Back to the Main Forum Page

By clicking on the User Name, you will requery the forum for that user. You will see everything that he or she has posted with that Mudcat name.

By clicking on the Thread Name, you will be sent to the Forum on that thread as if you selected it from the main Mudcat Forum page.
   * Click on the linked number with * to view the thread split into pages (click "d" for chronologically descending).

By clicking on the Subject, you will also go to the thread as if you selected it from the original Forum page, but also go directly to that particular message.

By clicking on the Date (Posted), you will dig out every message posted that day.

Try it all, you will see.