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GUEST,Frank Hamilton BS: Maliki doesn't want more U.S. troops (750* d) RE: BS: Maliki doesn't want more U.S. troops 28 Jan 07


Oncde again Teribus is misinformed and his attribution to Smith is risible. His answers?

"- The US will never have any credibility in the world ever again."

The US has no credibility in the world now. The rest of the world thinks that Bush's policy is insane. The US has no leadship ability now and won't as long as they remain in Iraq or attempt to aid Israel in nuking Iran.

"- Your "professional", volunteer armed forces will never again trust the population or government."

The Blackwater armed mercenary volunteers are what is left of the efficacy of the US military in Iraq. They have one of the largest bases there. They are being lead by a Christian right-wing-nut named Erik Prince who has funded James Dobson's idiotic Focus on the Family. They are out-of-control torturers in Abu Graibh and other centers. Bush will not stop at 20,000 but doesn't think he needs them as long as Blackwater continues.

I'm reminded of Teribus's ridiculous post about the UN resolution and the idea that Sadam expelled Scott Ritter and the UNSCOM team. This was patently wrong and Republican propaganda that added to the lies of the Bush Administration's other flights of fancy.

"It took the US military over twenty years to recover from the defeat suffered at the hands of the Vietcong, they will not recover from the defeat against the insurgents in Iraq inflicted upon them by their own politicians and population."

It certainly did not take twenty years for American industry to find its way into Vietnam.
This is a fallacy. The reason the US was "defeated" was because there was no support for a losing proposition by Johnson and furthur aggravated by Nixon.


"- Emboldened by your defeat in Iraq, the battle against the USA, declared by Al-Qaeda way back in the early 1990's will arrive at your doorstep. "

Obviously Teribus has not bothered to read the letters of Osama bin Laden which states unequivocally the fact that the only reason to attack the US is because of American troops on "Holy soil". If we were to leave Iraq, Al-Qaeda could claim victory and not bother with America. The idea that we have to fight them over there so we don't have to fight them here is a misleading bromide that has no basis in fact.


" No-one will trust the United States to have the integrity to live up to it's commitments."

Wake up Teribus. This is the case right now. Bush has destroyed our integrity.

"- The United Nations will become even less significant than it is today. Like it's predecessor, "The League of Nations", without a powerful and forthright United States of America the UN will become equally irrelevant."

You have to remember if you are a student of American history is that it was the Conservatives that torpedoed the "League of Nations". Wilson couldn't get it passed so it never really existed. The UN is viable now and will be in the future if the Bush Administration doesn't destroy it with more John Boltons.

In short, Teribus, your pronouncements have no credible evidence to back them up.

Also, the Democratic Party was elected in the US to stop the debacle in Iraq. They are beginning to hear from its base, now, and expose the hypocrisy of Ram Imanuel and his ilk.

Frank Hamilton


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