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GUEST,erictheorange Ewan MacColl's accent (182* d) RE: Ewan MacColl's accent 29 Sep 06


>> Jeri said
>>
>>It also seems that when a subject gets thoroughly exhausted
>>on Usenet, people who still want to keep going come to Mudcat
>>to start things all over again. Tiny, toothless Lilliputian
>>rats, trying to gum to death a huge, respected reptutation.
>>
>>These repeated 'Attack MacColl' threads say more about the
>>egos of those who use them to launch post mortem attacks

Jeri -
I have not posed this question before in any form anywhere.
I don't participate in Usenet.
I am not aware of this discussion in Usenet.
I do not have any agenda to push.
I was just asking a question - which is surely what this forum is for. I find your attack on me unwarranted, offensive and inexplicable.

I posted this question in good faith following on from the circumstances I described because I believe that to understand more about the man enables one to better put his actions and opinions in context.

With particular reference to the desertion issue, I don't really care except with regard to any relevance it might have in comparison with his stated beliefs - comparing his views to his actions.

In this case desertion of British troops might reasonably be considered to be beneficial to the Nazis - whose policy of "Germanization" would seem to be in direct conflict with any movement to preserve or promote indigenous folk traditions. The Nazi persecution of Communists and Trade Unionists would also seem to be in direct conflict with MacColls political beliefs.

In this context I think it is not unreasonable to question how his actions at the time can be reconcilled with all that he seemed to stand for later in his life.

It may be that it is not possible to reconcile these - people do strange things sometimes.


>> "eric the red" said
>>
>>Jimmy Miller changed his name to Ewan MacColl because he
>>was part of the ' Lallans ' movement and it was customary
>>to change your name.
>>that is the fact of the name change.

Thankyou! A simple answer to a simple question.


>> Jim Carroll wrote
>>
>>He picked up his accent from his parents - his mother had
>>a broad Scots accent until the day she died; also he was
>>surrounded by Scots people throughout his childhood and
>>early youth.
>>While he had a Salford speaking accent, according to his
>>contemporaries the one he used for singing was that he
>>got from his mother Betsy and other members of his family

Thankyou Jim - that answers that question.


>>"Les in Chorlton" said
>>
>>eric, what a cunning disguise!

I don't understand what you're saying. Please explain.


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