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GUEST,rarelamb BS: US forces in Afghanistan desecrate bodies (30) RE: BS: US forces in Afghanistan desecrate bodies 20 Oct 05

I don't believe that you can have a war 'without any rules' so to speak. You fight based upon whatever doctrine you think is appropriate in that circumstance.

If you are at a severe material disadvantage then you are going to fight with an assymetrical war doctrine. If you are superior then you may take a attrition doctrine. etc. etc.

The point is that you have to fight the battles in ways that are appropriate for that situation.

For example, in WWII German pows in the US were treated very well (in fact in some ways better than black US citizens). But the few Japanese that we were able to 'capture' went to intel and then killed. This is totally appropriate given the situation. If taking the prisoner has a high probabilty of death due to them carrying a grenade or other explosive then you are going to treat them differently than if you take a German prisoner.

In Vietnam, our men were routinely tortured. Should we treat their men the same way as the Germans in WWII?

In the war against terror, do you think we should treat people who are diliberately targeting the most number of civilians the same way? Or who cut off the heads of kidnapped citizens the same way?

On a practical point, I don't think that torture is effective. Everyone has a breaking point and anything you get is because they will say anything to stop the pain. I don't have a problem with using it as a deterent to make the other side stop.

An example of this is when Hitler decided not to use chemical weapons. It wasn't because he had some honor reason not to, it was because he was afraid the Britts would use their stockpiles.

So, what I posted was that it doesn't make sense to follow the Conventions and it isn't enforceable.

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