Mudcat Café Message Lyrics & Knowledge Personal Pages Record Shop Auction Links Radio & Media Kids Membership Help
The Mudcat Cafeawe



User Name Thread Name Subject Posted
GUEST,John Garst Origins: Red River Valley, Gaelic? (107* d) RE: Origins: Red River Valley, Gaelic? 23 Jul 05


The tune of Red River Valley/etc is nearly identical with that of a famous New Orleans jazz song, "We Will Walk through the Streets of the City," also recorded by the Carter Family and by Bllind Gary Davis (and others).

I have just yesterday, 22Jul2005, found sheet music for "We Will Walk in the Streets of the City" at the Library of Congress' American Memory site. See
http://hdl.loc.gov/loc.music/sm1874.14542

The words are by Rev. Mr. A. Flamman and the music by Dr. T. H. Peacock, copyright (U.S.) 1874. The chorus is definitely the "Red River Valley" tune.

1874 is only 4 years after the end of the Canadian Red River Rebellion. It seems quite plausible to imagine that when "Streets of the City" was published someone found its chorus tune attractive enough to use it for a song about the late rebellion. In this scenario, it would spread to other areas and be adapted as a cowboy song and as "Bright Sherman/Mohawk Valley."


Post to this Thread -

Back to the Main Forum Page

By clicking on the User Name, you will requery the forum for that user. You will see everything that he or she has posted with that Mudcat name.

By clicking on the Thread Name, you will be sent to the Forum on that thread as if you selected it from the main Mudcat Forum page.
   * Click on the linked number with * to view the thread split into pages (click "d" for chronologically descending).

By clicking on the Subject, you will also go to the thread as if you selected it from the original Forum page, but also go directly to that particular message.

By clicking on the Date (Posted), you will dig out every message posted that day.

Try it all, you will see.