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GUEST,Wolfgang Obit: More Muslim intolerance? (589* d) RE: Obit: More Muslim intolerence? 25 Jan 05

Two very different voices (back to the theme of the thread):

Jordanian born al Qaeda leader in Iraq Zarqawi (I'm not sure I got the English transliteration correct):

"(why he is against elections) it's the aim of the USA to bring the Shiite pigs into power...(the aim in the long run is to help create a Great-Israel)...
(why he is against democracy) Democracy means that the people rule (but that's un-Islamic since the Koran says:) Let noone have part of God's rule. (Therefore no real Muslim can live in a democracy or in a country with freedom of religion. For) if a Muslim commits apostasy his punishment is death." (I don't a the full version)

Francois Zabbal has been university teacher in Jordan and been forced into exile in 1984:

(full German language version in a Swiss newspaper here; it's a translation from the French which I haven't located yet)

(my partial translation:)
Missed chance for a reform?
Muslim thinkers in Europe

(There once was said) that Europe will be the nucleus for a reformation of the Islam...(Now we can see, however,) that in this favourable context (Europe) the most promising and forward looking thinking about the Islam did not develop at all. Grown-up in Europe Muslim activists are now the backbone of European Islam....
As time goes by they (the exiled and born in exile) develop a more unified view of the Arab world. Looked at from afar it seems to be less torn and fragmented as it really is. In the host country they feel obliged to defend the world which they have left but that they, in a kind of sublimation typical for the exiled, build up into a world of intact living and faith....
From that comes a militant attitude both among the born in Europe and the migrating to Europe Muslim intellectuals making defense of Islam a political personal matter. Under the pretext of fighting against racism known intellectuals who up to now had rather been distanced from religion and faith become advocates of Islam...Under the pretext of objectivity Islam is condensed into its most orthodox and antiquated form.


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