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Shimbo Darktree About Irish Rebel Songs (53* d) RE: About Irish Rebel Songs 05 Nov 99


Oh boy, I can't resist this thread! Two issues, folks:

ISSUE ONE: A good song is a good song, be it green, orange
or brindle. And the Irish on both sides of the Question
write bloody beautiful songs. Glorifying bloodshed and murder?
Yes, I guess it is, if you look at it that way ... the way
medals for valour (or valor for my American friends, if I have
any left at the end of this), homecoming parades and special
pensions/low loan rates for returned soldiers might be said
to glorify bloodshed and murder. Anyone getting mad yet?
If so, consider issue two ...

ISSUE TWO: Who in a fight is right? Some of you will say
"no-one", and good on you ... but do you then turn your back
if you see a big brute assaulting a little girl? Maybe I
would, but then, I'm small and gutless, and would be wrong
to do so. I submit that the "rightness" in a fight entirely
depends on your point of view. Consider the Christian ethic
of "love thy neighbour (neighbor?)", and then have a look at
the history of Christianity. Have a re-read of the words of
Bob Dylan's "With God on our Side". Now, tell me who is right
and who is wrong.

I sing both Orange and Green songs (mostly Green, as I cut
my teeth on The Clancy Brothers and a local wild Irish rebel ... and raised a Protestant, too!)
, although I don't have any "kill the bastards" style in
my repertoire. I shall continue to sing them, because they
are great songs, not because they glorify murder.

Shimbo "The Pacifist" Darktree any overtly


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